Trans: When Ideology Meets Reality - Helen Joyce Audiobook
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The instant Sunday Times best seller
“An intelligent, thorough rejoinder to an idea that has swept across much of the liberal world seemingly overnight. Even those outraged by Joyce’s positions would benefit from understanding them…. Open conversation about such fraught issues is the only realistic path forward.” (Jesse Singal, The New York Times)
“This rigorous and brave book nails the absurd idea that sex is just a ’social construct’.” (David Aaronovitch, The Times)
Gender identity ideology is about more than Twitter storms and using the right pronouns. In just 10 years, laws, company policies, school and university curricula, sport, medical protocols, and the media have been reshaped to privilege self-declared gender identity over biological sex.
People are being shamed and silenced for attempting to understand the consequences of redefining “man” and “woman”. While compassion for transgender lives is well-intentioned, it is stifling much-needed inquiry into the significance of our bodies.
If we recommit to our liberal values of freedom of belief, freedom of speech, and robust debate, we scan de-escalate this most vicious of culture wars.
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| 13 Chapter 10 Regardless of Sex.mp3 21.4 MBs | |
| 17 Conclusion.mp3 18.05 MBs | |
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| 02 Epigraphs.mp3 238.58 KBs | |
| 09 Chapter 06 Back In the Box.mp3 16.98 MBs | |
| 01 Title.mp3 146.13 KBs | |
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This post has 47 comments with rating of 4.4/5
October 22nd, 2022
Thank you for this.
October 22nd, 2022
It is hilarious her arguments confirm what she is preaching against and she is too dumb to realize it.
October 22nd, 2022
Idealogy, liberal agenda or some deep state plot has nothing to do with it. 1 in 1000 babies are born every year with both Mail and female genitals and are surgically assigned just a sex at birth. It’s a 50/50 guess if the choice was correct or incorrect. This is reality not someone’s agenda. Now what is causing this to happen is up for some debate, but I think we all know what causing it and to remedy it would cut into the profits of some billionaires and we can’t be having that.
October 22nd, 2022
Idealogy, liberal agenda or some deep state plot has nothing to do with it. 1 in 1000 babies are born every year with both Male and female genitals and are surgically assigned just a sex at birth. It’s a 50/50 guess if the choice was correct or incorrect. This is reality not someone’s agenda. Now what is causing this to happen is up for some debate, but I think we all know what causing it and to remedy it would cut into the profits of some billionaires and we can’t be having that.
October 22nd, 2022
Idealogy, liberal agenda or some deep state plot has nothing to do with it. 1 in 1000 babies are born every year with both Male and female genitals and are surgically assigned just 1 sex at birth. It’s a 50/50 guess if the choice was correct or incorrect. This is reality not someone’s agenda. Now what is causing this to happen is up for some debate, but I think we all know what causing it and to remedy it would cut into the profits of some billionaires and we can’t be having that.
October 22nd, 2022
You’re the one who seems confused about what ideology means, and I’m pretty sure intersex people, like most minority groups, wouldn’t appreciate being used as a political football.
October 22nd, 2022
get this transphobic nonsense off this website
October 22nd, 2022
What a bunch of transphobic Conservative right-wing BS!
Trans people do not think that “Sex” is a Social construct. We believe that “GENDER” is the social construct, created by stuffy old men and women to control what you can do, wear, act, play, live.
This book is nothing but Anti-trans BS!
The only one that’s confused is the Author!
October 22nd, 2022
Hi yes, i’m political football intersex people.
There is no such thing as a consistent, “reality-based” definition of “biological sex”, in the same way that there is no consistent single definition of “species” or “life”. Biology is messy, and hard lines imposed upon it are ideologically motivated inaccuracies that hurt people.
October 22nd, 2022
You will never be a woman. There’s reality.
October 22nd, 2022
Ashepiro, as both you and Helen Joyce make exactly the same point on sex and gender, I’m presuming you haven’t actually read or listened to what she wrote.
October 23rd, 2022
Ashepiro, if trans people don’t think sex is a social construct, why do so many use the language of AFAB and AMAB (assigned female at birth, assigned male at birth)? Why don’t they just say “male” and female”? Answer: because they are trying to point to the social construction (”assignment”) of sex. This isn’t the knock-down point you think it is.
October 23rd, 2022
“we can de-escalate this most vicious of culture wars.”
Hilarious. From the people who started and escalate this “culture war” at every opportunity.
Even the few conservatives hesitant of publicly expressing hatred for Jews, blacks, feel empowered to attack trans and accuse them of every vile act they can imagine.
Fascist always need an “other” to focus their hate and blame for their woes.
October 23rd, 2022
@ashepiro
You’re confused. Check again. For years it was acknowledged that gender is a construct then transsexual became transgender and suddenly trans activists said sex is the construct.
Queer girls and boys are being permanently sterilised in puberty not for sex ideology but gender ideology. As one transgender activist
said “all gay men are trans but too scared to do it”
October 23rd, 2022
hey ashepiro
You’re confused. Check again. For years it was acknowledged that gender is a construct then transsexual became transgender and suddenly trans activists said sex is the construct.
Queer girls and boys are being permanently sterilised in puberty not for sex ideology but gender ideology. As one transgender activist
said “all gay men are trans but too scared to do it”
October 23rd, 2022
@JohnnyStormzy
“Queer girls and boys are being permanently sterilised in puberty”
BS.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(21)00139-5/fulltext
“Puberty blockers are falsely claimed to cause infertility and to be irreversible, despite no substantiated evidence.”
And “activists” are just people with loud opinions, they speak only for themselves.
October 23rd, 2022
@carlowman, @oljimmy, @JohnnyStormzy,
Everything you have said is complete Ignorant transphobic BS!
As someone who IS trans, I can tell you that you and author have no idea what you are talking about. You are jsut parroting Right-wing anti-trans ignorant talking points.
October 23rd, 2022
@Gweilo your link is to an editorial, not a scientific paper. However, the paper the editorial is based on addresses the use of puberty blockers for the temporary treatment of Central Precocious Puberty, not as permanent puberty blockers for Trans. people. The reason no evidence exists in this paper is because they are not looking for it. To quote: “Data on paternity rates and fertility are not available.” This is a good example of your use of the Absence of Evidence fallacy.
October 23rd, 2022
“The HRA’s investigation repeats a familiar misconception: because GnRHa drugs are licensed for the postponement of central precocious puberty, therefore ‘the treatment was licensed for the purpose of blocking progression of puberty’ (p. 4). In the case of precocious puberty, a child starts to go through puberty at an abnormally young age—a girl starts menstruating at five, for example. This condition has an objective physical diagnosis. GnRHa drugs are then prescribed in order to postpone puberty until the normal age of puberty is reached, when the drugs are stopped and puberty resumes normally. There is no similarity at all for the case of a child with gender dysphoria. This condition has no objective physical diagnosis. GnRHa drugs are prescribed in order to prevent the child from ever experiencing puberty. The adolescent never develops the ability to conceive a baby and might never develop the capacity to orgasm.”
Report on The Tavistock’s Experimentation with Puberty Blockers 02/03/2019
Dr. Michael Biggs, Department of Sociology, University of Oxford
October 23rd, 2022
Your fixation on fertility above all else, even life, hurts a lot of people. I’ve been sterile from birth, and because of this sentiment it took a very long time to stop feeling broken and worthless (particularly when guys would call me “damaged goods” etc, though only a few are bold enough to say those words to your face).
My friend recently had to have a total hysterectomy because of terrible endometriosis and is dealing with all the same feelings now. Especially after doctors responding to a debilitating condition that had her trapped in bed most days from pain with “but what if you want a baby in the future?”
At any rate, this all hopefully will be a non-issue in the not too distant future. Work with synthetic embryos today seems promising for eventually producing viable gametes from induced stem cells, so that even people without functioning gonads could make them, and artificial wombs should be possible as well (though that’s a more difficult problem, but still should come about if the world doesn’t collapse in the meantime).
October 24th, 2022
@mybutthole
You will never speak to a woman. There’s reality.
October 24th, 2022
Wow so much emotion in both directions. I have always supported the LGBTQ community (my sister), but what I am seeing now I find pretty horrific. Some of the puberty blockers given to kids are used to sexually castrate sex offenders, sounds pretty potent to me @Gweillo. And anyone under 18 should never have any sex surgery, it is criminal to mutilate these kids, many of them that have grown up are very angry at having been pressured into it, when it was only confusion they had an issue with. And then this pronoun nonsense and letting males into womens sports, lockers and bathrooms! This is a degenerate sickness that has pervaded into our society, and is corrupting it. And to see that it is occurring in “certain” locations proves that this increase in trans is no more than a social pressure for the epidemic of confused kids we have. As much as I once supported them, I no longer support trans people and will always vote against anyone who supports them. I appreciate the “Gays against Groomers” and support them 100%. Eventually this insanity will be driven back into the hole it spewed out of.
October 26th, 2022
Child genital mutilation has been standard practice in the US for something like a century. It’s very strange people are getting so upset now about (non-existant) genital surgeries for trans minors while ignoring all their lives (or more likely participating in mutilation of) the millions of children being *actually* needlessly modified for religious reasons (either the exodus 4:25 kind or the “you look weird, so let’s ‘fix’ you kind” (which was done to me personally)).
October 26th, 2022
thanks. been waiting for this.
(isn’t it interesting that one side of the debate insists on suppressing the other side? almost like they know that their incoherent postmodern theory is nonsense, and they don’t even believe it themselves, deep down?!)
October 26th, 2022
I say “normal” because that classification applies to only about 50% of US citizens (this book and commentary are about the US), and calling half your population “abnormal” is before anything else inaccurate.
October 26th, 2022
It’s interesting to me rather how tightly people cling to their pre-modern but post-archaic theory (i.e. the inaccurate conception of human sexual dimorphism unique to the greco-roman-abrahamic heritage culture, representing a few thousand years of thought first only in a tiny subset of the world’s population and then spreading to capture most of it), appealing to “reality” and “biology” without any intention of ever studying the biology in question, maybe for fear of confronting its nonconformance to that greco-roman-abrahamic “common sense”.
October 27th, 2022
I like cheese
October 28th, 2022
Excellent book, with many great insights about how gender ideology has become so prominent. What used to be “gender non-conforming”, where people could wear the clothes and the hairstyle that they want, has now become “gender identity” where you need to get surgery and conform to sex stereotypes. We’ve gone backwards!
October 29th, 2022
@carlowman “absence of evidence fallacy”: that has never even slowed down the right wing in any of their conspiracy theories. Anti trans fear mongering is just the latest.
I prefer to trust in articles in the Lancet rather than stuff from Alex Jones at al.
November 3rd, 2022
@Gweilo I didn’t mention Jones. I quoted from a social scientist working through an eminent UK university. His viewpoint is as salient as that of the Lancet. Yet you ignore it, preferring to deflect onto right-wing nuts like Jones.
November 7th, 2022
As it is not actually possible to change one’s gender, ‘transgender’ is a nonsense word. There is no such thing as a transgender person. Only a mentally ill one.
November 15th, 2022
It´s an interesting and very fair book. No claim is outragous and it is definitely not driven by hate. I propose: The harsh critics in this comment section have neither heard nor read the book.
December 10th, 2022
@wmute I agree absolutely. Unfortunately, we live in a world where ideology trumps honest inquiry. The Trans religion rejects all science in favour of subjective “belief” and emotion. They have absolutely no interest in a dialogue on this serious topic. To their shame.
January 14th, 2023
Thanks Carlowman.
Just listening to the trigger podcast right now.
January 20th, 2023
When I see this kind of chaotic argument occurring in the comments, I’m always intrigued to listen to the book and then see if anyone has proximity to my conclusion in context of the boundaries of the text.
February 19th, 2023
Thank you for this!
April 14th, 2023
Great read!
April 21st, 2023
Thanks for the upload and sharing
June 12th, 2023
Great book. Thank you!
June 25th, 2023
So the babies born with both would be the only logical way a man could be a woman and a woman could be a man. Can’t argue with science folks. Just because you don’t like the truth doesn’t make it homophobic or hate speech. It use to be a metal illness and it still is. It’s just popular. Most of these people are doing it because they want attention. The attack on the kids has to stop! A child doesn’t know what he or she wants to do tomorrow so to let them do something that will change them forever is wrong! What’s next I feel like I’m a 69 year old man AND I should be able to retire?
July 16th, 2023
CAUTION!!!
There are some staunch defenders of dicks and ducks in this comment section, KEEP AN ASPRIN HANDY.
July 19th, 2023
thanks for this, finally a good book about biological FACTS.
September 9th, 2023
An interesting and excellent discussion between Helen Joyce and biologist and renowned ashiest, Richard Dawkins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu72Lu5FqE4
November 23rd, 2023
Just for the record, Helen Joyce is not a “right wing conservative”. Sex matters.
December 13th, 2023
Very important to have these audiobooks readily available. We are fighting against a global cult!
September 5th, 2024
Helen Joyce is a right wing conservative. She aligns herself with fascists, unabashedly. Ignoring the evidence of her being a terrible person requires incredible cognitive dissonance.
Transphobia is a conservative stance that desires to remain in the past, where arbitrary standards are met and no one diverges from the status quo. This aligns similarly with homophobia, misogyny and racism. If you’re okay with those things, then sure, I guess you’ll fit in just find with transphobes.
May 4th, 2025
LOL, Look at the demented comments here coming for the brainwashed fascist libtards. It looks like Gweilo is their leader. He posts under each audiobook that does not conform to his ideology. Maybe he should get a life?
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