The Jakarta Method: Washington’s Anticommunist Crusade and the Mass Murder Program That Shaped Our World - Vincent Bevins Audiobook
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The hidden story of the wanton slaughter - in Indonesia, Latin America, and around the world - backed by the United States.
In 1965, the US government helped the Indonesian military kill approximately one million innocent civilians. This was one of the most important turning points of the 20th century, eliminating the largest communist party outside China and the Soviet Union and inspiring copycat terror programs in faraway countries like Brazil and Chile. But these events remain widely overlooked, precisely because the CIA’s secret interventions were so successful.
In this bold and comprehensive new history, Vincent Bevins builds on his incisive reporting for the Washington Post, using recently declassified documents, archival research, and eye-witness testimony collected across 12 countries to reveal a shocking legacy that spans the globe. For decades, it’s been believed that parts of the developing world passed peacefully into the US-led capitalist system. The Jakarta Method demonstrates that the brutal extermination of unarmed leftists was a fundamental part of Washington’s final triumph in the Cold War.
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This post has 41 comments with rating of 5/5
May 20th, 2020
Wow looks interesting. Thanks alot. :))
May 20th, 2020
Woah there! There’s a huge red elephant in this room. Study of the 20th century Dark Age is unpleasant, but essential. It also needs to be balanced and not bizarrely selective.
Brutal proxy wars were fought throughout the century, with both sides sponsoring bloodshed in order to promote their agenda, and prevent the success of the opposition.
The most fundamental difference being that the Marxist side of the ledger made war upon their own populations, who were always the primary enemy. This mass terror & murder was accomplished through forced famines, purges, pogroms, concentration camps, democide, genocide, politicide, unprecedented mass murder, torture, “cultural revolutions” & human rights abuses. The death toll in this regard was well in excess of 100 million human beings.
We can say a plague on both their houses, but history demonstrates that wherever Marxists were successful, the populations suffered on an unimaginable scale, in what was the bloodiest century in human history.
Context always kicks the hell out of disingenuous, opportunistic arguments.
May 20th, 2020
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Found the genocide apologist
May 20th, 2020
You missed the point by well over a hundred million people, ed. Now, that’s a genocide.
May 20th, 2020
caesar963 - excellent comment,balanced,accurate and objective.
ednice - check the definition of “apologist”
I lived, in my youth, in that socialistic haven and hope you and your children never experience its peoples power. It’s very seductive, especially for younger generation.
May 20th, 2020
It’s important to keep in mind that this is a scholarly book, not pro-Stalin political propaganda as caesar963 implies. If you aren’t against all genocide then you aren’t against genocide, you just want a different group targeted. It’s not hard to be against state communism and not be a fascist or an apologist for US support for fascists like Pinochet (etc.).
May 21st, 2020
“Tragically, that which everyone believed we had left in the past has returned to spread throughout Latin America once more. The Jakarta Method allows us to understand the moment that Brazil is now living through, and its connection to a much larger, global scheme.”―Paulo Coelho, author of The Alchemist and The Pilgrimage
Thanks a lot, as always, daenigma100.
May 21st, 2020
darwin & bones - Good points all. I said above that balance & impartiality are crucial in any such assessment. Without these, the pretence towards scholarship has been vigorously defenestrated by the author. To focus only on the decontextualised acts of one aggressor, as if that reveals all we ever need to know; as though America went on an insane, wanton rampage - this represents a mockey of serious historiography. They weren’t contending with the Care Bears, by any means.
When evaluating the two opposing systems in the Cold War, it’s manifestly clear that we do not have a case of moral equivalence before us. To suggest that we did, would be to say that there was no difference between North & South Korea. Or, in the last century, that the people of Eastern Europe were just as free as those in Western Europe. If you recall, their freedom was such that they had little hope of ever escaping it.
And Stalin wanted the West as well. He was disappointed with East Berlin, because: “Czar Alexander I made it to Paris.” It would be beautiful if we did not have such characters or their evil, toxic systems. However, words and pacifism are of little use against them. They murdered entire countries. I always think that the scale of people who were slaughtered represents an unanswerable argument. I’m continuously surprised when it isn’t. The mindset must be epitomised in the chilling phrase: a million deaths is merely a statistic.
May 21st, 2020
Well reasoned and insightful, caesar963. And if only the media in America could report news in a balanced way as “journalists” instead of being aggrieved “opinionists” I feel we would have a less polarized society. I can only take about 10 minutes of CNN and FOX News before I need to pet the dog in order to relax. If you want to hear the sky is falling EVERY DAY turn on MSNBC.
May 21st, 2020
I’m with Ceasar - let the blood soaked record speak for itself.
BUT, if one can’t check their national/cultural biases at the door (most can’t) & can’t/won’t look at all nations atrocities with equal inspection, then they are not interested in the truth. They’re only interested in their truth.
*Here’s a simple bias self test. If you felt anger when you glanced at the book title & my link below, you are biased….heavily.
If you turned your comment into a peeing contest for which tribe is worse or better (my dad’s stronger then your dad) you are biased.
‘List of Atrocities committed by US authorities’
Definition: An extremely wicked or cruel act, typically one involving physical violence or injury.
“If there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America. They don’t care for human beings.” - Nelson Mandela
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/master/us_atrocities.md
P.S. My dad’s stronger than all your dads put together………..so there.
May 21st, 2020
Well said, ap! I hope that I too can sometimes look at the factual, historical record, without an overloaded bias chip. In the present contest, I don’t have any, er, pee, in the game, not being an American personage (I hadn’t known that they had developed a culture?! When was that?). Also, I have nothing against America or Russia, or…(they’re really the only two countries I can name. I don’t know much about the world beyond the Brandywine river. That represents the border of my knowledge & lore).
I always thought that Nelson’s quote doesn’t really capture the full truth, complexity & horror of international politics. It is ever so slightly blinkered & narrow to posit that the US is somehow uniquely evil, that they fail to reach even the minimum standard of civilisation - “They don’t care for human beings.” That is harsh. If they were really such frightful, subterranean Morlocks, who should not be admitted to the human family, how much worse then are all the others, responsible for the unimaginable death toll mentioned above? And more besides?
In 1966, President DeGaulle demanded that all U.S. troops must be removed from French soil, LBJ asked does that include all the Americans soldiers from WWI & WWII buried in France? (Over 60,000 in France specifically)
When this question was put to DeGaulle, thoroughly embarrassed, he hurriedly departed the meeting, and never answered. Now, how had he contrived to have forgotten that? All of those young men who gave the last full measure of devotion, everything they had, so that he could be driven around in a nice car, wearing his fancy hat? The Marshall Plan went down just as good, you may be assured.
Hey, anova - hope the dog is managing the lockdown tolerably well! American “news” seemed to lose its way, around the time it became a branch of the entertainment industry.
May 21st, 2020
Should have been tagged as “Retrogressive Science Fiction”
May 22nd, 2020
caesar still playing the role of fascist apologist. I suppose the name he chose makes that clear. “Murdering millions of communists preemptively is moral, because Stalin and Mao murdered millions of communists too”.
May 22nd, 2020
I would hope that neither of us are fascist apologists? Or actual defenders of any form of mass murder, be it fascist/Marxist, or anything else? I, at least, can say that some of the people I admire most were martyred during the last century by fascist/Marxists; so you & all such others may be assured that I wish such ideological evil had never been inflicted upon the world. A human catastrophe, all can see.
Well, muh name just reflects a love of history; Classical history, in particular. In fairness to ole Caesar (the other one), it would be seriously anachronistic & ahistorical to imply that he was one of your fascists. (People are really stooping to blitz names recently; yours, mine…)
I’m a bigger fan of Cicero, in point of fact. But, what’s in a name?
Rather than diverting us with tales of what a terrible fellow I am; the argument? The gravamen, as the pointy headed might say? I appreciate that the straw chap comes in quotation marks this time. The Marxists you mention, and the rest of the glorious pantheon, slaughtered over a 100 million human beings - not communists. They had to be murdered because they did not fit the New Utopian ideal. They never would. Where does that “logic” ever end? Every country they subjugated became a lethal, slave State. Why try to defend these evil sleazeballs - the greatest mass murderers in all of history?
I would state firmly that all murder is, ipso facto, evil. That good cannot be accomplished by evil means. Can you honestly say the same?
May 22nd, 2020
You might expect other writers to focus on the Soviet Union, China, etc … as they do.
Here’s a book that concerns itself with the murderous antics of the USA. Other murderous antics are not diminished by it.
‘Whataboutism’ is not an argument.
May 22nd, 2020
That’s true; but proper, contextualised historiography is not composed of wildly imbalanced tendentiousness. Such an approach is more suited to a hoarse harangue; or a deceitful diatribe (as in violating Godwin’s Law). Although screeds can have their limited role in the marketplace of ideas.
Should the US be in the dock for their World Police activities? Absolutely. Is everyone entitled to a defence? The Western tradition would say yes.
As for specifically murderous toxic ideology - that’s open & shut.
May 23rd, 2020
@Caesar: you literally bothsided: “both sides sponsoring bloodshed”. A classic tactic, most famously by Trump,to normalise and excuse murder by the side you have sympathy with.
It is possible to defeat communism without just murdering them all. E.g., eastern Europe. So you cannot claim necessity. It often backfires, as in Vietnam, Latin America.
As for Caesar being a fascist: I was alluding to the origin of the word. Fasces, like the swastika, is now a tarnished symbol. Democracy was pretty thin on the ground back then anyway.
May 23rd, 2020
Anti-West propaganda hit piece, must be a student of Zinn.
May 23rd, 2020
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By the same logic, I would actually be downplaying the far greater amount of murders carried out by the Marxists during the long, dirty war; including their vast wars against innocent, unarmed civilian populations. An American reader would condemn me for suggesting there was any moral equivalence whatsoever between “both sides” - if I anger both extremes - that is approaching balance; that is something like compromise.
A tactic in war: “Brutal proxy wars were fought throughout the century, with both sides sponsoring bloodshed in order to promote their agenda, and prevent the success of the opposition.” That was the history of the Cold War. Sides in war. Descriptive.
The reason I said this is rendered clear by the necessary context of the first part of the paragraph: only American wrongdoing is mentioned. Their “Mass Murder Program” - as though they just went nuts one day, like one of their usual “normal” lunatics over there who goes on a horrifying shooting spree in a school.
Communism collapsed. American intelligence did not predict that; they had planned for a balance of power. The Marxist system defeated itself through political, social & economic decay. If it had collapsed sooner, millions of lives could have been saved, and so much needless suffering averted. That is, as I said, a tragedy for the human race.
During the Cold War, the US govt made many utilitarian calculations (the utilitarian ethical paradigm is not one which I have any regard for) along the lines of, if we are to prevent the establishment & consolidation of another Mao or Stalin, before they become too powerful to assail, we must act now, with the governments/factions available to us (pragmatic politics). Many legitimate, beleaguered governments also sought their aid, of course. However, as with most such expedient State calculations, dirty wars ensued.
Early on in the extended “proxy” conflict, the Americans learned a harsh lesson, which still has horrifying ramifications. When the Japanese were defeated, there weren’t sufficient American troops in the Northern part of Korea to accept their surrender. Instead, they formally capitulated to Russian communist forces & authorities. Russians promptly established a Marxist regime, which then invaded the South. War resulted, the Chinese became involved, and ever since the compromise we have had the atrocity of the Kim regime, border tensions, nuclear weapons, a deranged rogue state actor, famines, concentration camps, wholesale torture, and the terrible suffering of the North Korean people.
Yeah, okay then, I chose Caesar because of the fasces rods - which pre-existed his birth & career. Have you ever been unjustly accused because of your name? So I must be a feral fascist; albeit one who has always voted for the Green party, detests all forms of violence, always condemns antisemitism, & has marched against American wars (spoiler alert: they proceeded regardless).
I do not suggest, or seek to compare, Americans to fascists. As I said above, they bled against fascism AND Marxism. Those two extremes are one to me.
Strangely enough, the fasces symbol remains in wide usage by countries around the world. Various State agencies employ it in their iconography in France, Russia, Norway, America, Cuba, Sweden, & many others. It’s broadly utilised as a symbol of the rule of law. The swastika also has a ceremonial use throughout Asia. None of the foregoing turns anyone into a raving fascist.
In ancient Rome, citizens had substantial rights against the imposition by authorities of arbitrary punishments & the abuse of power. In that sense, and many others, toxic ideology during the 20th century turned the world into an even more brutal place than ancient Rome.
Eugenics has even made a return, of course - not that it ever truly departed.
May 23rd, 2020
Dude: stop digging.
May 23rd, 2020
…metaphorical graves for all the victims? At once, your majesty!
May 23rd, 2020
TL:DR.
May 24th, 2020
(Didn’t - Can’t - or Won’t?)
I thought it’d play out in such a way!
In fairness, it is a complex political history; but you’ll find that the only way to learn is to canvass all perspectives, LR & Centre (as you kids would “initially” have it!)
May 24th, 2020
“LR & Centre”? You invariably support the “right” and attack the “left”. Just own it and don’t play at “fair and balanced”. That is probably the most irritating thing about your bloviating here. Your Trumpie fellow travellers are at least honest about their stance.
May 24th, 2020
So how come right wing twats attack me as a “liberal” & every other epithet that’s not worthy of print? I do criticise all extremism - left or right; antisemitism; Islamophobia; imperialism; racism & hatred of all kinds; I support large scale redistribution for social programmes, etc. etc. But not everyone has to be (or should be) a Stalinist or Maoist.
You would have to be disturbingly extreme in orientation to imagine that I was “right wing” in anything I say or do. From what I see, you become outraged at any reasoned critique of the evils of the extreme left during the last century. You’re going to have to “own” that, as you say.
May 24th, 2020
I’ve now listened to the book twice. Thanks to daenigma100. My gripe with the book would be that it contains too much context and not enough detail. Caesar’s immediate reaction to the synopsis was ill-considered, but he’s the kind of person who needs the top comment on every damn torrent, and his petulance betrays him.
Caesar: I’ve ignored previous provocations, but you picked this hill to die on. You’ve died on it.
May 24th, 2020
I genuinely do not understand your comment (provocations?). It is bizarrely hostile, however. Clearly a cross-purposes dynamic in operation. Balancing one’s reading is always the best approach, of course. We can agree that anyone who ignores or supports the ideological mass murders of the last century, should be deeply ashamed of themselves.
All I can say is that any reply I give to enraged attacks is always more courteous than the attacker’s outbursts (as evidenced above). So, no hostility on my part - no digging of graves or wishing that someone would…die on a hill(?!) Okay.
On the book: if, as you imply, it does provide the necessary, substantial context demanded by such a work, by responsibly outlining the mass murders committed by Marxists (unprecedented in history) as well as properly delineating the murders facilitated & carried out by America, then you are quite correct, I spoke too soon. I will listen with this in mind.
May 24th, 2020
@caesar “how come right wing twats attack me”: You answered your own question. Your buddy Litot* has been banned, a rare honour.
The more you claim to be objective, the more silly you appear.
I have no sympathy for the brutal communist regimes of the past, or present. I just object to using them as a “whatabout” to distract from any criticisms of Western countries.
And to return: you were making excuses for mass murder here. That deserves some outrage.
May 24th, 2020
That chap used a similar tactic in attacking your name as you did mine (see above). An unfortunate coincidence (objectively speaking). He was also viciously abusing people with gleeful abandon for what, two years? Okay…
Such right wing twats accuse me of being on the left; likewise, you accuse me of being on the right. Relationally, that places me where I already said I was: in the centre. Extremists naturally think in extreme, absolute terms. History also demonstrates that extremists build camps & commit mass murder. Your side, theirs - a distinction without a difference.
As I said, put the US in the dock for its murders, but recall the lethal ideology they were fighting. Condemn the evils of all, don’t just expediently omit the grotesque 100 million+ murders of your “side” - in favour of irrationally hating the Great Satan. Of course, for an extremist that will equate to making excuses for mass murder. A truly demented accusation, but there we are.
I’ve never seen you even slightly condemn the Marxist mincing machine before. But you do attack the books that criticise the ideology & its atrocities. That does represent an extended constructive apologia. If you now claim to distance yourself from support for the ideological regimes, but still adhere to the broken ideology which drove them, isn’t that cognitive dissonance again?
And con theories regarding the hated Americans are enthusiastically promoted. And phuckin’ Trump shoehorned in everywhere (as above). Why allow Trump to frame your entire reality? He’ll most likely be gone soon. Vote/canvass for someone else. The endless garbage about this. It’s only fit for parody.
Commendations for ineffective invective of the First Order, as per, but we’ve just about reached the borders of telling each other how utterly awful we are. I’ve to feed little caesars, and you probably have full hands with that new Death Star.
May 25th, 2020
I was not “attacking your name”. It was a joke, FFS. Foolishly, I thought you would appreciate the classical reference. But it appears you are another right wing snowflake with intellectual pretensions.
As for “condemn the Marxist mincing machine”, I do that elsewhere, in discussion forums where it is on topic.
it is really, really offensive to call totalitarian communists “[my] side”. If that’s OK, I should just call you and your ilk Nazis and be done with it.
You are less incoherent than most of your cohort, but your style of argument is just as poisonous in the end.
I won’t revisit this page.
May 25th, 2020
Dude, shut up.
I’m obviously cleverer than you. I know that there’s cleverer people behind me, and you don’t want to make them angry.
May 25th, 2020
I’d want to be kindly disposed towards Eisenhower, but … there was a bit of slavery.
June 14th, 2020
We’re all gonna be communist eventually, despite these shenanigans :) Capitalism earns us endless crisis — even when it bestrides the world virtually unopposed. We’re headed for collapse, I just hope we can manage it nicely.
Insane somebody could suggest that communist regimes have monopoly on treating their own population as the enemy when protests across the US against EXACTLY THAT are taking place — the poster is white & well off I guess. You also need to be able to ignore the black and brown bodies broken out of sight around the world to keep the US & Europe fat on commodities and processed food.
June 22nd, 2020
We’re all gonna be dead eventually too, don’t forget! Market capitalism has cycles of boom & bust, yet it’s proven itself adaptive. It does reflect human nature to a far greater extent than extremist, toxic, left/right ideological forms, which have but one proven cycle of catastrophic, murderous failure. There’s the contrast, in essence.
Those ideological evils rendered the 20th c the bloodiest in human history & enslaved whole populations. We can’t seriously draw an equivalence between them and liberal democracies which have at their core liberty & the rule of law. They butchered almost 150 million people, through democide, genocide, forced famine, the use of concentration camps & all the mechanisms of industrial oppression.
I am indeed fortunate to have been born into a Western country which, while not perfect, did not fall into such horrendous evil. I wish everyone was as lucky. As far as “well off” goes: I grew up in a broken home (boo hoo, sez u), worked & saved upon leaving school; paid for several university degrees, which I pursued while working, saving, and caring for a parent with multiple, serious health problems (I had my own health issues). I happily pay taxes for social programmes of redistribution. I want more resources to go to public health & education - with less waste & inefficiency. It’s not empty ideology for me. I want what works.
Everything else you say, I agree with wholeheartedly. The racial tensions which exist are utterly unjust. Many of the Third World countries around the planet are racked with corruption & incompetence; and furthermore, they are exploited by wealthier States & global corporations.
However, the solution cannot lie in yet more ideological mincing machines. As we have to know, these are proven to make everything worse, for all people.
To the benefit of everyone, the problems should be resolved within frameworks which actually function - not open, ideological prisons that - while promising Utopia - do nothing but grind people further into the dirt. I call as a witness the factual, historical record - ever our truest guide, and the only one we can trust.
October 15th, 2020
Great book! Thank you!
October 28th, 2020
You guys in the comments should actually read or listen to the book first
February 20th, 2021
insane to me that a book detailing the horrors of what the US has done to innocent people for decades gets long essays of “well actually” filled with stupid propaganda.
March 27th, 2021
This is the most important book of the 21st century. Everyone should read this
April 3rd, 2021
caesar963, the bootlicker, has logged on to defend capitalism
May 11th, 2021
In hindsight of capitalism itself being a socially-conditioning contrivance of initially those seated on the left in the French Revolution, this is absurdist historical revisionism:
“Market capitalism has cycles of boom & bust, yet it’s proven itself adaptive. It does reflect human nature to a far greater extent than extremist, toxic, left/right ideological forms, which have but one proven cycle of catastrophic, murderous failure. There’s the contrast, in essence.”
Market capitalism was shoehorned into human nature by the likes of the liberal Girondins who happened to shrug when French market people were withholding grains to speculate food prices. Starving the people got you less than a slap on the wrist. It was free market moralizing.
“Those ideological evils rendered the 20th c the bloodiest in human history & enslaved whole populations. We can’t seriously draw an equivalence between them and liberal democracies which have at their core liberty & the rule of law. They butchered almost 150 million people, through democide, genocide, forced famine, the use of concentration camps & all the mechanisms of industrial oppression.”
Liberal democrats contrived to only value democracy for property owners though. They have nothing but contempt for the working class. Always have, as elitists. So elitist were the Girondins, they advocated war to spread their capitalist revolution. And that so failed, the free market counter-sensically fostered despotism over and over – as in Napoleon himself. Why wouldn’t it? The workplace hierarchy of employer and employee shapes nations. Capitalism is itself ideological, toxic, extreme, catastrophic, and murderous. Even your praise of “liberty” and “rule of law” is potential contradiction that might as well affirm authoritarianism so long as the law buzzwords “liberty” a few times.
July 30th, 2021
@daenigma100 Just finished this book and can’t thank you enough. This book should be part of the curriculum at all US high schools!
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