The Viral Underclass: The Human Toll When Inequality and Disease Collide - Steven W. Thrasher Audiobook
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“An irresistibly readable and humane exploration of the barbarities of class…readers are gifted that most precious of things in these muddled times: a clear lens through which to see the world.”
—Naomi Klein, New York Times bestselling author of This Changes Everything and The Shock Doctrine
From preeminent LGBTQ scholar, social critic, and journalist Steven W. Thrasher comes a powerful and crucial exploration of one of the most pressing issues of our times: how viruses expose the fault lines of society.
Having spent a ground-breaking career studying the racialization, policing, and criminalization of HIV, Dr. Thrasher has come to understand a deeper truth at the heart of our society: that there are vast inequalities in who is able to survive viruses and that the ways in which viruses spread, kill, and take their toll are much more dependent on social structures than they are on biology alone.
Told through the heart-rending stories of friends, activists, and teachers navigating the novel coronavirus, HIV, and other viruses, Dr. Thrasher brings the listener with him as he delves into the viral underclass and lays bare its inner workings. In the tradition of Isabel Wilkerson’s Caste and Michelle Alexander’s The New Jim Crow, The Viral Underclass helps us understand the world more deeply by showing the fraught relationship between privilege and survival.
Length: 9 hrs and 26 mins
Release date: 08-02-22
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This post has 33 comments with rating of 5/5
September 15th, 2023
“It’s not my fault that I can’t learn to use a condom or not bang someone covered in weeping pustules” - A little too much information there. You’ve also overused “usual” - as usual.
September 15th, 2023
Thank you!
September 15th, 2023
The first commenter blames the poor and deprived for being poor and deprived. An ugly Victorian style response to poverty and inequality, for all his invocation of ‘2023′and the modern age. I’m reminded of Milton’s quote,fitting even though out of context:’They who have put out the people’s eyes reproach them of their blindness’.
Quite evident the first commenter is comfortable mocking from the ramparts. He may change his mind when either a) illness bankrupts him or b) he can’t get medical attention. An adequately funded health service requires a modicum of socialism. Otherwise it’s survival of the richest.
The second commenter, renowned for protestations of compassion,merely makes a glib remark which leads one to infer he’s obliquely concurring with the sentiment expressed.
September 15th, 2023
The Wobbly1933 commenter is “renowned” for, inter alia, incessant copy/paste Putin prop; racism & bigotry; genocide denial/support; Jew hatred; mocking victims of rape, torture & murder; repeating mindlessly obvious con theories; rejecting fundamental human rights - “Human rights blah blah!”; supporting genocidal ideologies & despotic regimes - such as the Assad regime (a misunderstood humanitarian); the Gaddafi regime, “Under Gaddafi Libya was a paradise!”; the Putin regime - “no evidence that Putin is corrupt!”; the Iranian regime; his belief that free speech does not exist anywhere in the West - it only exists under Putin, the CCP, etc. etc.
His contention that Ukrainians are attacking themselves.
The Wobbly1933 is also “renowned” for being in agreement with the Gordon (racist name) commenter, on such things as supporting the illegal imperialist invasion of sovereign Ukraine by the Putin regime, etc.
Essentially the same racist troll - different Wobbly names…
September 15th, 2023
I see The Narcissist hasn’t changed. Still defending the indefensible, and attempting to pin the racist tail on anyone who disagrees with him.
Straight away going for the Ukrainian issue.
Well Narcissist. The Ukrainians are attacking the Donbass which they claim Russia is occupying. Ukrainians in Kiev attacking Ukrainians in the Donbass. Ukrainians attacking Ukrainians.Is that hard for you to understand?
Let me put it in a simple way, just for you. The people of Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporizhzhia Kherson and Crimea want out of the abusive relationship they have had with Kiev since 2014. Kiev is gonna get them back if it has to kill them to do it.
I have no doubt at all that you know what it’s like to demand the return of somebody who wants to be out of a relationship with you. If that is, anybody was daft enough to have a relationship with you in the first place.
No wonder you have such an affinity with Kiev.
September 15th, 2023
More tankie twaddle, racist bigotry established; a fortiori with his discredited, fascist Sudetenlander ruse
(copied & pasted from a reliable Kremlin-approved source). But it’s okay when Putin does it, of course.
September 16th, 2023
Gordon Coon, you overachiever, pulling yourself up by your bootstraps and all! Why go to the Philippines for treatment to shell out 25K when we have the best healthcare in the world? Did you run overseas to buy a “second-hand” organ from a poor child whose future you obviously imperiled? Was it the booze or the cigarettes that did you in?
Your ignorance and arrogance are astonishing! This is a book site where information is provided freely, but you obviously haven’t read many of the books available. LOL! We should all ignore the meticulous work done by authors who’ve spent their entire careers studying and writing extensively in their fields of expertise. Instead, we should take your anecdotal experience because you know best. You’re a clown!
Let me state three obvious facts:
1. There are groups of citizens in the West who cannot afford internet service. It isn’t free. There are also areas in the USA that do not yet have broadband internet coverage.
2. Without 1 above, one cannot access the education that is freely available.
3. One can have free internet but still not know how to access that free content unless guided or as you would say the “opportunity was offered.”
September 16th, 2023
This is regarding the narcissist calling himself Caesar963. Copy/pasted from my own comment during another recent run in. I see no reason not to repeat it, as The Narcissist can only repeat himself and has nothing to add to any discourse.
Why did he visit this particular page? He doesn’t show any interest in the subject.
The Narcissist attempts to belittle any opponent who refuses to accept his dominance.
Sooner or later, every one who crosses (s)words with him encounters the point at which The Narcissist abandons all notion of utilising cogent argument, shuts the door on rational discourse and turns into a raging werewolf.
Or becomes, as Vincent Canistraro once said about The Narcissist’s idol Ronald Reagan’s understanding of foreign policy, ‘a brick wall’.
My intention now is to draw light on his dirty tricks and inform members that he is just a bully who will say anything to win.
All The Narcissist wants, when all is said and done, is to win. Right and wrong are malleable abstractions. To that end a narcissist of the vulnerable subtype (which seems to be what we are dealing with here) will bully, belittle, impugn, impute, insult, lie, plagiarise, ridicule, deny, gaslight and deflect. He/she will use any method to bring down a gainsayer, regardless of the validity of his hers or their point of view.
The Grandiose Narcissist has no difficulty adopting the same techniques but typically will not spring so readily to anger and aggression. The latter two are dead giveaways.
Both types are cunning. They will poke, prod, goad, jeer, mock, and do everything in their power to provoke a response –
- and then pivot. Back to the original source of the argument in order to make theirs seem the rational voice.
Think The snake Kaa in The Jungle Book films.
And ‘for the record’, I think GC’s comments are largely racist and disagree with them.
However I agree 100% with GC’s comment on Ukraine. I would rather he did not have such a contentious, racist cognomen but I can’t stop him.
As for Columbia22: You know what creature you’re supporting,don’t you? Just don’t disagree with him.
September 16th, 2023
…once again, your rambling, disturbingly obsessive comment has zero content, Wobbly1933. What brings you to a book site? What draws you away from your beloved Hate & Prop sites? You couldn’t identify a single book that you had actually read.
“However I agree 100% with GC’s comment” - You are also an inveterate racist (”largely racist!”), as proven, so it’s not merely “100% agreement” on your support of Putin’s brutal imperialist invasion of sovereign Ukraine? More of your boring tankie twaddle.
“My intention now…” - Finally, you have a basement mission. You’re still incurably isolated & vulnerable, however.
Your established profile: incessant copy/paste Putin prop; racism & bigotry; genocide denial/support; Jew hatred; mocking victims of rape, torture & murder; repeating mindlessly obvious con theories; rejecting fundamental human rights - “Human rights blah blah!”; supporting genocidal ideologies & despotic regimes - such as the Assad regime (a misunderstood humanitarian); the Gaddafi regime, “Under Gaddafi Libya was a paradise!”; the Putin regime - “no evidence that Putin is corrupt!”; the Iranian regime; his belief that free speech does not exist anywhere in the West - it only exists under Putin, the CCP, etc. etc.
His repetition that Ukrainians are attacking themselves (copied/pasted from Grayzone).
Again, the same racist troll - just different Wobbly names…
September 17th, 2023
“All the usual clowns out in force” - Not merely clowns, ineducable racist clowns, such as yourself & your brownshirted buddy, Wobbly1933.
“I live in Southeast Asia” - You can’t just label your dank basement as “Southeast Asia.” It’s disingenuous.
“critically think” - This is how you identify your copy/paste efforts from your favoured racial hate sites? No, not at all.
“Nonsense ‘reamins’ nonsense” - Oh, the irony. Yet another “critical thinking” clanger. You must be sharing Wobbly1933’s guide to good writing.
September 17th, 2023
Anger and aggression from The Narcissist who calls himself Caesar963.Dead giveaways of the vulnerable narcissist.
With every successive post The Narcissist reveals himself to be repetitively irrational. Indeed, all he can do, is reveal a preference for hate above debate,expressed in a pseudo-frenzied, hysterical ’style’ that feigns outrage but bespeaks a mind struggling to articulate convincingly an emotion it is not capable of experiencing.
It seems the sole purpose of this narcissistic troll is to void from the nether end, without its having undergone any critical digestion or historic comparison, whatever current narrative is favoured by western media.
At least he has no fear of joining the Myrotvorets list compiled by the freedom loving Ukrainian nazis.
How anybody can take this creature seriously is beyond all understanding.
I cannot take this narcissist seriously. And see no reason a) why anyone with functioning critical capacity could do so either, or b) why I should respond with anything but laughter at the allegations that, characteristic of his disorder, he claims to have proven beyond doubt.
He has evident psychological issues which, in true narcissist fashion, he transfers to anyone arguing with him.
I’ll offer some observations, though:
He says I’m racist.Yet in his entire discourse he has only expressed outrage on behalf of white people.
He says I copy and paste from hate sites. Another narcissistic trait.And though with far more proof, citing the exact sources, I’ve consistently accused him of plagiarising content from right wing CIA funded sites, he ignores the accusation. Like he’ll ignore this one.
Narcissists can do that without a blush.
Narcissists can do anything without a blush, TBH.
And this one spews hatred from the same dancing fingers that accuse others of ’spewing hatred’. With not a trace of self-awareness.
He must spend a lot of time proofreading his rants. Anybody who leaps so eagerly upon a simple transposition of letters (’reamins’instead of ‘remains’) is demonstrably desperate to assert his wayward and quite perverse sense of superiority. And is, at the same time,terrified of being caught out doing the same.
Nor is that all. He must have a bookmarks list on his browser longer than the list of wars America has started overtly and covertly since 1950.
And he burrows through them, like an obsessive little squirrel, quoting with squeals of delight and typically cavalier disregard for fidelity, from the correspondence he has tabbed over the years.
Isn’t that rather a sad way to pass the day?
Not for a narcissist.
September 17th, 2023
…even more rambling, obsessive ranting from the brownshirted Wobbly1933 - yet again wholly devoid of content. And once again predictably rushing to the defence of his basement/bunker Axis ally, Gordon (”racist name” - or “largely racist” according to the defensive Wobbly1933) - because “I agree 100% with GC’s comment” - yes, on everything. Likely copying/pasting from the same hate/prop sites - while using the same “style” guide (”Anger and aggression” being redundant, heinrich).
Wobbly1933 throwing a right racist wobbler again. The trains must not be running on time - he’s so obsessed with having those trains run on time.
Added to his worship of power, imperialism, & brutal authoritarianism.
Plus his incessant copy/paste Putin prop; racism & bigotry; genocide denial/support; Jew hatred; mocking victims of rape, torture & murder; repeating mindlessly obvious con theories; rejecting fundamental human rights - “Human rights blah blah!”; supporting genocidal ideologies & despotic regimes - such as Assad regime (a misunderstood humanitarian); Gaddafi regime, “Under Gaddafi Libya was paradise!”; Putin regime - “no evidence that Putin is corrupt!”; Iranian regime; “free speech does not exist anywhere in West!” - it only exists under Putin, the CCP, etc. etc.
His repetition that Ukrainians are attacking themselves (also copied/pasted from Grayzone).
Pure hate from a tyrannical tankie, day & night. All of this “remains” on his record.
Flat on his fat fascist face, once again.
September 18th, 2023
…perfect. It figures how you two have no comprehension of irony (or anything else).
While you were desperately trying to rhapsodise about your intellectual prowess & “critical thinking” skills (& over on another upload assuring all that you are more intelligent than dark-skinned “losers”), you “reamin” a total failure at elementary orthography & expression. What an utter basement clown you are.
Don’t fret, Gordon (racist name), you’ve always got your stalwart intellectual equal & fellow traveller, the brownshirted Wobbly1933, to defend you.
Well, p’haps you ought to worry…
September 18th, 2023
‘p’haps you ought to worry’
p’haps? Is that how it’s spelt?
‘a total failure at elementary orthography &’
&? Incorrect use of an ampersand in written language?
And you have the risible lack of self awareness to accuse another of linguistic incompetence?
Cum now, Narcissist. I bet you say that to all the boys.
The Narcissist who calls himself Caesar is a ‘total failure’ at (sic) convincing anybody of anything.
And at (sic) an elementary application of grammar. Not to mention a lamentable understanding of recent history:
In Gadaffi’s Libya, healthcare, education and electricity were all free. Married couples were given a house in which to live. Every newborn child was gifted 5,000 USD.And the people loved him.
Just look at the country now, after America freed it from tyranny (that’s irony). Split in two and in constant civil war.
What the hell happened to the ‘Government of National Accord’, Narcissist?
How can anybody take this narcissist seriously?
September 19th, 2023
…Wobbly1933, predictably straight in to defend his Axis ally, Gordon (racist name), with another slab of tankie ignorance. Brilliant.
Oy. You can’t even understand contraction? Although you’ve proved your ignorance here on multiple occasions. “Incorrect use of & in written language” - What are you blithering on about, brownshirted Wobbly? You’re a preliterate fascist, with grammarian pretensions.
When basic linguistic development has to be painstakingly explained to you, & when you’re still stuck at the level of not being able to distinguish their, they’re or there, it’s incumbent upon you to curtail your ignorant commentary - most severely, heinrich. And yes, you are truly incompetent.
“Cum now” & “And at (sic)” - Yet more examples. Wobbly1933’s “brain” - where irony goes to die. You’re still copying/pasting terms without any comprehension.
Here you are, without even an elementary education, struggling to talk about history. “In Gadaffi’s (sic; what was that about irony?) Libya,” - systematic torture & pervasive human rights violations “were all free.” And that’s your “paradise,” of course.
(Elementary economic point: there is no “all free” - there is an ultimate economic cost. “All free” - Your beloved tyrants alter reality, do they?)
“And the people loved him” - Yes, evidenced by their killing of him, when they finally had the chance.
You may actually be too stupid to live, Wobbly1933.
What will you & your beloved bunker buddy, Gordon (racist name), invent next?
September 19th, 2023
P’haps you finally ought to read a book, instead of incinerating them, Wobbly1933. Then you might not have to be corrected all the time.
Being such an incompetent, you usually set your brownshirt on fire as well. Tragic.
September 19th, 2023
You may be too challenged to construe intention, but when you combine a transparently, notoriously racist name with your consistent pattern of racist assertions, insults & comments, it’s then objectively reasonable to infer your racist intention. That’s just the real world.
Why not have the balls to admit your racism?
“It appears in many books” - That it does, and racist hate sites also. Incidentally, there’s no way you could have actual knowledge of books, so that’s a dubious reach.
Moreover, your obsessive racism & bigotry across the site, on one book after another, does clearly indicate mental health issues. You’re manifestly another isolated, hateful, inadequate, vulnerable character, like your basement buddy, Wobbly1933. No one can be as hatefully preoccupied with race, investing so much energy, time & negative emotion in such an obsession, and be a balanced, reasonable person.
It further reinforces your comprehensive failure, sadness, & ineducable nature.
However, don’t be too fearful, your Wobbly racist kamerad will swiftly rush to your sad defence, like it’s 1933. Achtung, dummkopf!
September 19th, 2023
And of course, caesar is not spelt “caeasar,” you drooling buffoon. Are you just Wobbly1933, but occasionally using a different name? In order to support yourself, with even more confused racist commentary?
September 19th, 2023
Oy, Narcissist. When are you going to own up about your blatant plagiarism? You know, the one you cut wholesale from that CIA funded ‘radio free europe’ site.
The Narcissist accuses others of copy and paste, yet hides like a shiksa at a shït throwing contest when asked to cum clean about it.
How can anybody take him seriously?
Does anybody take him seriously? Own up now.
‘Oy. You can’t even understand contraction?’
Writes The Narcissist. Is that a question or an accusation? Those little squiggly things at the end of sentences are there to signify the interrogative,don’t you know?
I can understand contraction. It’s what happens to The Narcissist’s cerebrum whenever he encounters anybody who has the temerity to think for themselves. The Narcissist would rather follow the established narrative of the western corporate media than challenge his own prejudice.It’s much safer being on the big boys side. Rather like the US, preferring to destroy weaker little states - sovereign states,cos they’re fightin for freedom and the dollar hegemony - and kill by the millions, than tackle countries that can fight back.
My point regarding ‘p’haps’ was, that The Narcissist was expecting those reading it to accept the contraction in place of the word ‘perhaps’, while he sneered at GordonCoon (there is an English artist called Caroline Coon so the surname isn’t inherently racist) for a typo. Deluding himself and giving us all a laugh by thinking it gave him an ‘edge’, when all it did was prove how petty minded a narcissist gets when it’s desperate.
The comments addressed to me are wonderfully mean minded and delightfully vituperative. Anger and aggression abound in his adjective-strewn ’sentences’, definitive indications of the vulnerable subtype of narcissist. He’s largely cut down on the exclamations but they slip in there in an attempt to add force his insults and insinuations. Rather like Edna Wellthorpe, I’ve always thought.
This is how bright The Narcissist is. He thinks Libyans are better off now than when Gaddafi (Duly corrected.What a paroxysm of delight that must have given him) was in power.
In the middle of a civil war, with essential maintenance neglected, causing the deaths of more than 20,000 when a dam collapsed. We can just bet they’re glad they aren’t being given houses, free health and education and clean water like they had when that illegitimato Gaddafi was around, eh Narcissist?
Gaddafi (enough times?) could ride around Libya in an open top car shaking hands with his people. US presidents are flanked by masses of outriders because they’re in constant danger of assassination.
But The Narcissist either ignores that fact or doesn’t know it. Which is it?
And The Narcissist, with his ever so faithful attachment to the truth, also lies when he claims Gaddafi was killed by his own people. That very claim proves The Narcissist is a blatant liar and ought to be regarded as an unreliable witness henceforth.
Gaddafi was brutally murdered by insurgent Islamists funded by the good ole US of A, (which also funded to the tune of billions of dollars, the very ones that attacked the twin towers and are now attacking Syria). Fundamentalists who tore up the country and are still doing so, they love it so much.
The Narcissist is not either a fool or a knave. He’s both.
But I hope he keeps it up. Keeps betraying his Narcissistic Personality Disorder and risible lack of insight for all the site to see.
It’s a sight to see.
September 19th, 2023
‘However, don’t be too fearful, your Wobbly racist kamerad will swiftly rush to your sad defence, like it’s 1933′
Does The Narcissist know that’s two sentences, joined together with a comma? Is he totally linguistically inept?
September 19th, 2023
‘And I’ve just noticed a missing ‘to’ in the last but one comment. Won’t The Narcissist luv that. (Exclamation omitted)
September 20th, 2023
Even more rambling racist effluent from Wobbly1933’s basement of loneliness (such boring rants you have). A blundering blitzkrieg of three clueless comments (nothing to do, and all day to do it). Once again, rushing to offer an inept defence of his racist ally, Gordon (racist name). Oy, but you put so much effort into these hysterical outbursts.
“radio free europe (sic)?” - The report on the racist tweet from Putin’s neo-nazi allies? Yeah, you’ll no doubt not understand this, but that is not plagiarism. Unless you “think” that everyone runs their own news agency? (You utter nutter.)
Whereas you copy/paste wholesale from your racist hate sites & prop sites.
How do you know, for inst, that Putin is not corrupt (as you asserted!); & that there is only free speech under Putin’s regime & the CCP? Where are you sourcing these prize tidbits & juicy morsels? (Where else…)
“‘Oy. You can’t even understand contraction?’ Is that a question or an accusation?” - How desperately stupid are you, Wobbly1933? Really?
“there to signify the interrogative,don’t (sic, again)” - And to the point: you actually don’t understand contraction. Stop wittering on, and admit your global ignorance.
“know that’s two sentences, joined together” - Uh, no. There’s nothing worse than your uneducated guessing, heinrich. (In addition to your grammatical errors; redundancies; logical & factual blunders & falsehoods; orthographic errors, etc. etc.) It’s increasingly clear that you have never read an actual book. And yet…
“a shït throwing contest” - Uh, this is how you pass your day? Your elevated entertainment in the basement/bunker?
Don’t it make your brown shirt, er, browner?
“think for themselves” - Yeah, like your bunker buddy, Gordon (racist name), and his “critical thinking.” He fell flat on his fascist face, just like you, Wobbly1933. Both of you are demonstrable failures at these pursuits.
Mindlessly repeating the phrases, while not remotely understanding them - this might be where you two basement storm troopers are failing yet again.
Copying/pasting Putin prop & spreading your racist hate: this is not “thinking for yourself,” or “critical thinking.” That this has to be explained to an adult (I’m assuming that you’re an adult, even though clearly uneducated) - this want of elementary knowledge & reason is something of a tragedy.
“prejudice.It’s (sic) much” - Again.
“sovereign states,cos (sic) they’re fightin (sic)” - And again.
“destroy weaker little states - sovereign states” - You support the invasion & destruction of sovereign Ukraine. But preach your manifest hypocrisy all you wish.
“kill by the millions” - And you slavishly support despotic states & genocidal ideologies which have repeatedly done this. Because you worship their brute power. This is evidenced by your mockery of victims of rape, torture and murder.
“western corporate media” - And you, servile toady that you are, uncritically follow the Kremlin prop line - again & again. How stupid would you have to be to do that? Even once?
“My point regarding ‘p’haps’ was” - Explaining & losing here again, Wobbly1933. Dismissed.
“sneered at GordonCoon” - The correct response to vile racists, such as yourself & your basement buddy, Gordon (racist name).
“Coon…surname isn’t inherently racist” - And here you incompetently stumble to the defence of Gordon (racist name). Brilliant. That’s full “mask off” now, fascist Wobbly. You share his demonstrable racism, so you desperately defend it. He combines a transparently, notoriously racist name with a consistent pattern of undisguised racist assertions, insults & comments. Consequently, it is objectively reasonable to infer clear racist intention.
And yours as well, heinrich.
Your hateful, racist stupidity here is truly egregious, Wobbly1933. Of course, your isolated, obsessive, vulnerable character has been observed already.
“there is English artist called Caroline Coon” - This is what he clumsily tries to offer, with the context of racism already established. Truly shocking stuff.
“I’ve always thought” - No you haven’t, tankie. Don’t be silly.
“Duly corrected.What (sic)”
“Gaddafi could ride around Libya in an open top car shaking hands with his people” - Uh, Gaddafi was caught hiding in a sewer pipe, waving a golden gun; and he was then killed by Libyan fighters. One of the Libyans at the scene, Ahmed Al Sahati, commented that, “He called us rats, but look where we found him.”
Again, in Gaddafi’s Libya, systematic torture & pervasive human rights violations “were all free.” And that’s your “paradise,” heinrich. But your beloved tyrants make everything “free,” don’t they? They defy economic gravity. This must be why you are so servile towards them.
“And the people loved him” - Yes, evidenced by their killing of him, when they finally had the chance. So much “love” for the brutal tyrant who tortured them, and “disappeared” their relatives.
“Gaddafi was killed by his own people…by insurgent Islamists” - Do you now imagine that there are no Muslims or Islamists from Libya? Again: how utterly stupid are you? Gaddafi was captured by Libyan forces, including Misratan rebel fighters - who confronted him about what he did to Misrata.
“It’s a sight to see” - Your soiled brown shirt? Uh, no thanks, heinrich. I’ll have to pass.
September 20th, 2023
The Narcissist still denies plagiarism. Even though he copied an entire paragraph from radio free europe (sic)and passed it off as entirely his own words.
He has trouble understanding what plagiarism is. It’s not reported speech, it’s not quotes per se. It’s when words are copied verbatim, in their entirety from another source without attribution, and pasted as if they were the paster’s own work.
And that’s what The Narcissist did.
Had he said, ‘I found this on radio free europe (sic) then he couldn’t be accused of plagiarism. But he didn’t. He claimed it as his own and no end of excuses can change that. Not that it will give him a moment’s pause. Narcissists cannot be embarrassed.
When someone is caught out, and unable to admit it even when it’s been proven, resorting instead to accusing others, then you know you are dealing with a narcissist.
But that is to be expected.
They say you should never quarrel with a narcissist. They would sooner harm themselves or you, than concede any argument.
What else is there, among the fulminations of this perfect example of psychological disorder?
One can well imagine the spittle hitting the screen as he types out his outrage, ‘mindlessly repeating’ the same old diatribes while he ‘uncritically follow’(s) the ideological line with no discrimination whatsoever.While accusing others of doing so. Of course.Self-awareness is not a narcissist’s strong point. Assuming there is one, that is.
The Narcissist is so determined to win he would rather claim the overthrow of Gaddafi and the destruction of Libya was a spontaneous uprising of downtrodden citizens with pitchforks, instead of the well funded,NATO led incursion it was in reality, designed to rid Washington of a man who had declared his intention to challenge the supremacy of the petrodollar. And whose daughter Reagan had killed in a bomb strike on Tripoli in 1986.
“Gaddafi could ride around Libya in an open top car shaking hands with his people” - Uh, Gaddafi was caught hiding in a sewer pipe’.
In what demented universe is The Narcissist’s response a rebuttal of that original statement? And what’s the ‘uh’ for? Did you have wind when you wrote it?
Ahmed Al Sahati was according to reports found all over Google, a ‘government fighter’. One of the captors of Gaddafi; captors who shot to death a 69 year old man after sodomising him with a knife, thereafter spreading lurid reports of his final humiliation which were eagerly disseminated (leaving out the sodomy in most instances) by the western media who had cheer-led the NATO intervention and demonised Gaddafi over four decades. The mocking accounts of such people find welcome reception among a certain kind of cruel individual, as The Narcissist demonstrates.Clearly.
The Narcissist will accept without question any propaganda tossed his way by the establishment media. But unhesitating gullibility is more an indication of vulnerability and blind, wilful ignorance, than of the erudition The Narcissist attempts to display.
Dogmatism, too. Shout loud enough,express enough outrage The Narcissist believes,and any opposition will cower. When media accounts are thundered out as though they are gospel,accompanied by vituperations and adverbs which have their verbs struggling breathlessly to catch up with them:’clumsily tries’,'incompetently stumble’,’slavishly support’. And others far too humourous to mention. One has to marvel at the chutzpah and characteristic lack of self awareness required to enable The Narcissist to mock others’ style of writing without cringing at the self humiliation.
‘Copying/pasting Putin prop & spreading your racist hate: this is not “thinking for yourself,” or “critical thinking.”
But ‘copy/pasting prop’(sic) (does he think abbreviation is style?) is fine when The Narcissist does it. Just as it’s not invading a sovereign state, or genocide, when Washington does it.
The Narcissist is a vulnerable individual.He mocks, he snarls,he sneers, he lies, he tries to bully. A poodle trying to be a pit bull but ending up covered in curlicues and apostrophes.
‘I’ll have to pass.’Most of what The Narcissist writes has passed through another’s intestines.
They say you should never argue with a narcissist. They are physically and psychologically afraid of losing an argument.
There’s an old joke which goes: What do you call a dog with no legs?
Call him what you like. He won’t come.
Can anybody.Anybody.Anybody? Take this narcissist seriously?
September 21st, 2023
…yet more boring hate, from the ineducable racist troll, Wobbly1933.
“The Narcissist still denies plagiarism” - Well then just admit. And try to avoid the third person.
A news report on a racist tweet from an actual Russian neo-nazi group close to your Putin’s regime cannot be your own work. The issue does not arise. But you seem to “think” that everyone runs their own news agency.
In any event, you copy/paste wholesale from Putin prop sites - in addition to your hate sites & obvious con theory sites. Attribution? Not at all.
“plagiarism is…when words are copied verbatim, in their entirety from another source without attribution, and pasted as if they were the paster’s own work.” - This does encapsulate what you’re doing, yes. And quality control seems impossible for you. But, “Narcissists cannot be embarrassed” - Clearly you cannot.
And the questions you tried to avoid: how do you know that Putin is not corrupt (as you asserted!); & that there is only free speech under Putin’s regime & the CCP? Where are you sourcing these prize tidbits & juicy morsels?
“When someone is caught out, & unable to admit it even when it’s been proven, resorting instead to accusing others, then you know you are dealing w a narcissist” - And you continue. “But that is to be expected.”
“They say you should never quarrel with a narcissist” - You ought to have warned me before, heinrich.
“Gaddafi could ride around Libya in an open top car shaking hands with his people” - Uh, Gaddafi actually was caught hiding in a sewer pipe. Waving his golden gun around; & he was then killed by Libyan fighters. One of the Libyans, Ahmed Al Sahati, observed that, “He called us rats, but look where we found him.”
Once again, in Gaddafi’s Libya, systematic torture & pervasive human rights violations “were all free.” Your “paradise,” Wobbly1933. Your beloved tyrants make everything “free,” thereby defying economic gravity. Thus, your mindless servility.
“And the people loved him” - Evidenced by their killing of him, when they finally had the chance. “Love” for the brutal tyrant who tortured them, & “disappeared” their relatives.
Moreover, you clearly do imagine that there are no Muslims or Islamists from Libya. To reiterate, Gaddafi was captured by Libyan forces, including Misratan rebel fighters - who confronted him about what he did to Misrata. Why are you wrong about everything, heinrich? That has to be intentional.
Your Gaddafi prop is so idealistically naïve. You almost contrive a despotic “paradise.” No doubt every day was like the first day of spring, in Gaddafi’s myriad torture chambers, of which you fantasise.
“sodomising him with a knife” - And what do you “think” happened in Gaddafi’s system of torture chambers? That the innumerable torture & rape victims were merely served tea & cakes? Before they were “disappeared?”
However, the Narcissist racist, Wobbly1933, will indeed accept without question any propaganda tossed his way by Putin prop & promoters of despotic regimes & genocidal ideology. This is more evidence of your fearful isolation, vulnerable mentality & manifest hateful bigotry.
“Copying/pasting Putin prop & spreading your racist hate: this is not “thinking for yourself,” or “critical thinking.”” Yes, absolutely correct.
“it’s not invading a sovereign state, or genocide, when” Putin or the Chinese regime do it. Alas, also too true.
You ignorantly leap on what you desperately hope are errors. Hilariously, you don’t even understand contraction in written language. Remarkably, you give no indication whatsoever of ever having read an actual book. Yet you ceaselessly & ignorantly troll a book site. (Only to be slapped around - have some self-respect, mindless tankie.)
Quote: “destroy weaker little states - sovereign states” - Yet you support the invasion & destruction of sovereign Ukraine.
Quote: “kill by the millions” - And you slavishly support despotic states & genocidal ideologies which have repeatedly done this. Because you worship their brute power. This is evidenced by your mockery of victims of rape, torture and murder.
Again, you uncritically follow the Kremlin prop line - again & again. How stupid would you have to be to do that, on even one occasion?
“sneered at GordonCoon” - And you’re upset that your fellow racist should be mocked or criticised. You even defend his manifest racism.
Your clumsy offering, in support of your fellow racist: “there is English artist called Caroline Coon” & “Coon…isn’t inherently racist” - This is your full “mask off” fascism, Wobbly, with the context of racism already established. You share his demonstrable racism, so you try to defend it. He combines a transparently, notoriously racist name with a consistent pattern of undisguised racist assertions, insults & comments. Consequently, it is objectively reasonable to infer clear racist intention. And yours as well.
You have established your hateful, racist stupidity here; unequivocally incorporated into your isolated, obsessive, vulnerable character profile.
“passed through another’s intestines” - Your “brain,” heinrich, once again in the faecal position. A characteristic failing, amongst all of your other failings.
“They say you should never argue w a narcissist. They are physically & psychologically afraid of losing an argument” - P’haps you should then seek help? But it will probably mean finally leaving your basement/bunker. If you do, try to wear a comparatively fresh brownshirt.
“Can anybody.Anybody.Anybody (really sic).”
September 21st, 2023
“The Narcissist still denies plagiarism” - Well then just admit.(?) And try to avoid the third person.’
_Here The Narcissist is playing the rather sad game of ‘no I’m not. You are.’ This immature manoeuvre is redolent of the way kids argue in the playground, or as I’ve commented before, Paul Reubens’ alter ego. (I know you are. But what am I?)
Doesn’t pass muster as a rebuttal.Lazy and rather defensive.
And The Narcissist knows it does not. For the next paragraph is taken up once again with an attempt to justify his plagiarism, ending up with the bizarre claim that I“think” that everyone runs their own news agency.
The Narcissist says: ‘A news report on a racist tweet from an actual Russian neo-nazi group close to your Putin’s regime cannot be your own work. The issue does not arise.’
So many points with which to take issue in those two sentences. Leaving aside whether the report was truthful or propaganda, it does seem axiomatic that it ‘cannot be your own work’. I take it here that in his use of the third person, The Narcissist really means ‘one’s’, or even, ‘my’. As in, ‘cannot be my own work’. That’s so obvious it’s daft even to say it, but he has, unwittingly, struck the point exactly. It cannot be his own work.
Indeed, it was the glaringly obvious departure from The Narcissist’s ‘style’ that made it obvious it wasn’t his own work. Better written than his usual adverb laden purple. It prompted me to enter the entire paragraph referred to, into a search engine, as I did with the section he plagiarized wholesale from the Jewish Chronicle during a previous contretemps over false allegations that Jeremy Corbyn was anti-Semitic.
The Narcissist’s excuse is that because a news report ‘cannot be your own work’ you are thereby entitled to use it as though it is.
But here The Narcissist’s deception comes to the fore. The plagiarism was not just of a tweet or a news report. It was of an entire paragraph written by another person, which includes that report.
Had he said, ‘I quote this, from RadioFreeEurope,’ and then quoted it, the paragraph would have had its proper attribution and no allegation of plagiarism could have stood. But he did not. As he didn’t with the (much longer) piece from the JC.
Here’s the rule:
Say where you got it from, put it in quotes, that’s fine. Paste it unchanged (that’s the fundamental bit) as if it’s your own, without attribution, that is cast iron, no excuse, downhome barefaced plagiarism. Own yer own news station or not.
That The Narcissist regularly accuses me of copy’n’paste, I shrug off like the worthless smear it is. I have never plagiarized, though there’s no copyright on ideas, otherwise every news station would be plagiarist. Put it in your own words, plagiarist.
I know about copyright.
‘This does encapsulate what you’re doing, yes.’ – Again, The Narcissist turning the accusation back onto his accuser. The old, ‘I know you are. But what am I?’
Such boring stuff, as he’s fond of saying of others.
Much of the rest of the comment is in a similar vein. Copy what I’ve said, add a remark along the lines of ‘that’s you, not me,’ and he ‘thinks’ he’s given a smart response.
So we have invective, disparagement, and another round of lies and deception punctuated by more than a dash of vitriol.
Ain’t we havin a great time?
Anyone reading such stuff must be highly entertained. And, it is to be hoped, also well informed of the true nature of the narcissist who calls himself Caesar963.
September 21st, 2023
It often appears that The Narcissist has no idea he’s doing exactly the same as he’s berated others for doing. I remember his comment, ‘Oh no! The really dumb guy’s going after the name!’ when I commented upon the genocidal tendencies of Julius Caesar. Then he goes after another about his username.
There’s no end to The Narcissist’s malevolence.
No beginning to his self-awareness.
He claims conditions in Gaddafi’s prisons were worse than what was done to Gaddafi with a knife. And he couches that ludicrous assertion in typical sneery sarcasm about tea and cakes while repeating propaganda about ‘myriad torture chambers’. Except of course, it’s not propaganda, or ‘prop’ as he insists on calling it. It’s true because the corporate media says so. And he’s taking their word for it like a good, gullible citizen.
Libya was the most prosperous country in Africa till it was destroyed on the ludicrous pretext of saving its people from destruction. Those same NATO countries left it to be fought over by rebel warlords who were only interested in power, with no thought for the people they abandoned. And even less thought now they really need saving.
As for torture, p’haps (sic) somebody ought to do something about Guantanamo. About which there’s documentation far and above anything that might be deemed just propaganda.
‘you clearly do imagine that there are no Muslims or Islamists from Libya’ Now is that a fact? Do I? From Libya? Do you mean ‘in Libya’?
One ‘clearly does imagine’ does one? Clearly, clearly.
September 21st, 2023
It is downright wasteful of time, to argue with a narcissist. Too many people on this site have been bullied and reviled, insulted and impugned, for holding opinions the sciolistic narcissist denies them the right to hold. While trumpeting the ethos of the rodomontade right wing ‘freedom’ lover and calling everyone’s information but his own, ‘Putin prop’.
It’s tempting when The Narcissist sneers and snarls, to respond in the same vein.
Until one remembers that anyone who writes such virulence is at heart (when if can be found) deeply disturbed and vulnerable.
September 23rd, 2023
Oy. Multiple posts of your hysterically hateful absurdities, Wobbly1933. You’re a factory of manifest lies, copy/paste bumf & incoherent prop. “Human rights blah blah!” All you do is “blah blah,” you racist halfwit.
How many futile chances have you been given? Rational people continuously reject & revile your obvious con theories, hateful racism, & Putin prop.
Insanely trying to defend one of Putin’s neo-nazi supporter’s racist tweet as “propaganda.” In that it was a racist tweet from a neo-nazi, this is how it would function as “propaganda,” heinrich.
The reported neo-nazi racist tweet was on a public forum, so “It cannot be his (my) own work” - yes. Now how was that so difficult? Again?
And “newsflash” - you consistently copy wholesale from your prop sites, hate sites, Putin “pravda” sources, etc. (Grayzone, ffs.) All the time. Glass houses, etc.
But everyone else ought to own their own news network, apparently. Just to please basement Wobbly.
“plagiarized wholesale from Jewish Chronicle” - Again, you were completely, embarrassingly unable to support your lie here. Hardly a new experience for you. And why is it always the “Jeeewz!” with you fascists? (I suppose that answers itself, doesn’t it, you daft tankie?) Why not make up another publication or periodical? Are the “Jeeewz!” in your cornflakes again, heinrich?
“the (much longer) piece from the JC” - Evidence? That’s actually the rule, heinrich.
Also, why are you repeatedly using American spellings? Do you not know the difference? Just chalk it up to another of your endless sequence of errors. (Here, you’re not using a bootlegged copy of Grammarly, & you’re unable to change the settings? Now that would be hilarious.)
“Jeremy Corbyn was anti-Semitic.” I’ll just leave that one stand as agreed.
Look, when you copy/paste from your “Putin strong as bull!” sites - “Here’s the rule: Say where you got it from, put it in quotes, that’s fine. Paste it unchanged (that’s the fundamental bit) as if it’s your own, without attribution, that is cast iron, no excuse, downhome (Americanism? Suggested by Grammarly? Well, shucks.) barefaced plagiarism. Put it in your own words, plagiarist.” Okay? Got that?
“I know about copyright.” - No, you clearly do not, Wobbly1933. In common with every other conceivable subject.
‘I know you are. But what am I?’ - That’s about your level, yes.
“Julius Caesar” - Uh, you’ve never seen Planet of the Apes? So you must spend all your time in that dank basement watching mindless Putin prop; speeches from the Dear, Great, Savage Leader; & Jew hating, anti-black, anti-Irish, onanistically racist hate videos? Ever take a break?
Sincere advice: watch or listen to as many lectures as you can find. Read objective works of history, politics, anthropology, philosophy, law, religion, science - just every area & domain of study in which you can finally generate interest & curiosity. The more you learn, the more interest you will develop in other (often unforeseen) disciplines. Audio is convenient, but try to absorb words on the printed page; how sentences are put together, etc. Try to develop a rational capacity & a due sense of proportion. I know you’re less likely to ever do any of this, because that would be like your “opponent” winning, but you’re the one who’ll benefit, in the final analysis.
Just try to abandon all of the angry, isolated hate; the utterly stupid racism; & the completely obvious con theories. If you’re buried in some extreme, destructive ideology (& the con theories, the racist bigotry & Putin prop indicate that you certainly are), try to assimilate alternative ideas. Literally read your way out of it.
For instance, here, “Then he goes after another about his username” - you’re again defending your friend, “Gordon (racist name - I’m not going to repeat it, as you did).” You know that you’re talking about another obsessive, pathological racist, of course. All the evidence is there - he doesn’t try to hide it either (he says that black people all have lower IQs than him; that the “tribes” should go back to Africa & fail like all of their “race,” that essentially all violent crimes are committed by black people; that we’re all being controlled by “the 2%” over in America - now guess who that is supposed to be? And on & on. This is your ally.)
All of your manifest hatred & racial animus; that “Narcissist’s malevolence” indeed; it’s true hatred, born, I believe, out of psychiatric vulnerability & extreme isolation. At some point, you must realise the hole you’re in, & take action. No one else can do that for you.
“claims conditions in Gaddafi’s prisons were worse than what was done to Gaddafi with a knife” - No, not “prisons” - actual torture chambers (more deceitful deflection - I wonder why?). You’ve never read or heard about the disgusting & horrifying practices of these & other torture chambers? All the places where human beings were “disappeared” from, following their inexcusable, appalling torture. Yet you continue to defend, deny & mock such practices (including rape).
“It’s true because the corporate media says so” - Why do you always lie? Libyan survivors & the families of all the victims have confirmed these crimes of the tyrant’s regime. The true extent will never be known. The full apparatus of despotism in place, as under all such regimes. No opposition or dissent was tolerated. All of which you incessantly & slavishly support. You even sickeningly call it “paradise” - what is that but more ignorant, hateful propaganda?
You merely “take their word for it.” Indeed, yet you go farther. You add your own bile & animus - directed at the victims.
“rebel warlords…only interested in power” - Your fawning servility towards brutal dictators is truly bizarre. Gaddafi seized power & ruthlessly held on to it - for decades - making himself & his family ludicrously wealthy in the process (more of your favoured tyrannical corruption & theft - on the most massive scale). Yet he was not “interested in power?” Your credulity is, to say the least, misplaced. But then you maintain that Putin is not corrupt either.
You identify “Guantanamo” - but maintain that there were no torture chambers in Libya? That it was “paradise?” This is why you are such a ridiculous & deceitful actor.
‘you clearly do imagine that there are no Muslims or Islamists from Libya’ Now is that a fact? Do I? From Libya? Do you mean ‘in Libya’? - Again, no, you are wrong once more. You falsely claimed that the rebel fighters & opposition who faced Gaddafi were not from Libya - you said, “he claims Gaddafi was killed by his own people” - this you falsely termed a “lie.” You imply that the fighters were all from without - that “insurgent Islamists” & Libyans are somehow mutually exclusive. I even identified a city in Libya where the fighters were from, a city targeted by Gaddafi. He was captured by Libyan forces, including Misratan rebel fighters - who confronted him about what he did to Misrata.
Hilarious, heinrich. You continue to be wrong about everything; even the fatuous things you just said. When you can’t even keep up with what you yourself struggled to say, then there’s little point.
“when if (sic, again) can be found.”
“It is downright wasteful of time, to argue with a narcissist” - I have indeed discovered this, while endeavouring to explain reality to a hateful, racist, ineducable narcissist.
“Too many people…insulted & impugned” - I only correct & slap the hateful, extremist racists; the liars, genocide deniers/supporters & absurd con theorists. Like yourself & Gordon (racist name). Because you deserve it.
September 23rd, 2023
It’s Saturday afternoon, 16.28. I have neither the time nor the inclination to wade through another of your dreary, adverb-soaked self aggrandisements.
But wait for me, Narcissist. I shall reply when I have more time. You can bank on it.
September 24th, 2023
Sunday afternoon, 16.28 (what we call a Co-in-sigh-dense) and a little time to spare:
From the following site:
https://www.eurasiareview.com/28052022-who-are-the-neo-nazis-fighting-for-russia-in-ukraine-analysis/
And from The Narcissist. Posted on August 19 during a rant about ‘A Small Stubborn Town In Ukraine’, https://politicalaudio.org/abss/a-sgmall-stubborn-town-life-death-and-defiance-in-ukraine-andrew-harding/#comment-411836;
Eurasiaview:
‘Milchakov, a former paratrooper, and avowed Nazi, has been identified [by experts] as the co-leader of Rusich, along with another Russian named Yan Petrovsky.’
The Narcissist who calls himself Caesar963:
‘Milchakov, a former paratrooper, and avowed Nazi, has been identified as the co-leader of Rusich, along with another Russian named Yan Petrovsky.’
Eurasiaview:
‘Both Milchakov and Petrovsky fought against Ukraine as volunteers in the Donbas in 2014 and 2015 and have openly displayed patches awarded to them as part of the “Union of Donbas Volunteers.” At the time, however, Russia repeatedly denied its forces were fighting in the Donbas, asserting, while often straining credulity, that the local forces battling Ukrainian troops were merely local partisans.
The Narcissist who calls himself Caesar963:
‘Both Milchakov and Petrovsky fought against Ukraine as volunteers in the Donbas in 2014 and 2015 and have openly displayed patches awarded to them as part of the “Union of Donbas Volunteers.” At the time, however, Russia repeatedly denied its forces were fighting in the Donbas, asserting, while straining credulity, that the local forces battling Ukrainian troops were merely local partisans.’
(Notice the word ‘and’ instead of The Narcissist’s trademark ‘&’ )
Eurasiaview:
‘On September 2014, near the Luhansk Oblast village of Shchastya, Rusich militants battled a Ukrainian paramilitary group called Aidar. Ukrainian news reports said dozens of Ukrainian soldiers were killed. Afterward, images of mutilated and burnt bodies circulated online, and Milchakov later openly bragged about photographing the bodies.’
The Narc wot calls isself Caesar963:
‘In Sep 2014, near the Luhansk Oblast village of Shchastya, Rusich militants battled Ukrainians. Ukrainian news reports said dozens of Ukrainian soldiers were killed. Afterward, images of mutilated and burnt bodies circulated online, and Milchakov later openly bragged about photographing the bodies.’
Eurasiaview:
‘The day that Russia launched its invasion, the head of the Russian Imperial Movement, Denis Gariyev, posted a message on his Telegram channel saying: “Without a doubt, we are in favor of the liquidation of the separatist entity Ukraine.”’
Oy. The N who calls himself C63:
‘The day that Russia launched its invasion, the head of the Russian Imperial Movement, Denis Gariyev, posted a message on his Telegram channel saying: “Without a doubt, we are in favor of the liquidation of the separatist entity Ukraine.”
Eurasiaview:
While some fighters are believed to have joined the ranks of Russian private mercenary companies — Vagner is the best known — an unknown number of fighters joined, and trained under, Rusich, as well as the Russian Imperial Movement and its paramilitary unit, the Russian Imperial Legion.
Grrrr. The Narcissist:
‘While some fighters are believed to have joined the ranks of Russian private mercenary companies, an unknown number of fighters joined, & trained under, Rusich, as well as the Russian Imperial Movement & its paramilitary unit, the Russian Imperial Legion.’
(Notice The Narcissist’s trademark ‘&’ instead of the conventional ‘and’. Indicates straight verbatim copy as opposed to ‘copy’n’paste’. Though it might just be there to throw us off the scent)
Eurasiaview:
‘right-wing Russian militias fighting on behalf of Russia, not just in Ukraine but also in Syria.’
The ever so bright and original Narc69:
‘the neo-nazi Russian militias fighting on behalf of Russia, not just in Ukraine but also in Syria.’
(’right-wing’ not effective enough. He’s talkin Nazis)
Eurasiaiew:
‘The group “has provided paramilitary-style training to white supremacists and neo-Nazis in Europe and actively works to rally these types of groups into a common front against their perceived enemies,” the department said in a statement. The movement “has two training facilities in St. Petersburg, which are likely being used for woodland and urban assault, tactical weapons, and hand-to-hand combat training. A few weeks after Gariyev’s Telegram post, the organization’s combat training center in near St. Petersburg, called Partizan, announced the recruitment of volunteers to fight in Ukraine.
Gariyev has also created a related organization called Reserve Squad, which, according to the German intelligence report, has received multimillion-dollar orders from the Interior Ministry, the Federal Security Service, and the Federal Protective Service, which is the government agency charged with providing bodyguard protection to top Kremlin officials.’
And, Ladeez n Gennelem! The plagiaristic sciolistic, rodomontade Narcissist:
‘The group has provided paramilitary-style training to white supremacists and neo-Nazis in Europe & actively works to rally these types of groups into a common front against their perceived enemies. The movement has two training facilities in St. Petersburg, which are likely being used for woodland and urban assault, tactical weapons, and hand-to-hand combat training.
A few weeks after Gariyev’s Telegram post, the organisation’s combat training centre near St. Petersburg, called Partizan, announced the recruitment of volunteers to fight in Ukraine.
Gariyev has also created a related organization called Reserve Squad, which, according to German intelligence reports, has received multimillion-dollar orders from the Interior Ministry, the Federal Security Service, & the Federal Protective Service, which is the govt agency charged with providing bodyguard protection to top Kremlin officials.’
(Note the redacted quote marks. And who said it. Blatant appropriation.)
And, highly amusingly, on the same page, from The Narcissist:
‘tenbenson’s credibility is based on his not being a mindless, copy/paste, basement prop bot, hatefully spewing other people’s obvious lies & fatuous con theories. So, that’s where you would differ, Wobbly1933.’
I have never,not once,copied and pasted without attribution. My words are my own. The Narcissist’s are anything but. ‘Cept the ill-will and adverbs. He’s all ill will and adverbs)
‘Irony is when Arrogance slips on its own banana skin. And the whole world smiles.’
Wobbly1933
More to come, Narcissist
September 25th, 2023
The Narcissist’s most recent rant (on this page, at any rate) comprises 1,277 words.
Take out the hate:
‘I only correct & slap the hateful, extremist racists; the liars, genocide deniers/supporters & absurd con theorists. Like yourself & Gordon (racist name). Because you deserve it.
hateful, racist, ineducable narcissist.
you are such a ridiculous & deceitful actor
fawning servility towards brutal dictators is truly bizarre.
your favoured tyrannical corruption & theft
your own bile & animus; ignorant, hateful propaganda
manifest hatred & racial animus
obsessive, pathological racist; true hatred, born, I believe, out of psychiatric vulnerability & extreme isolation; angry, isolated hate; the utterly stupid racism
you must spend all your time in that dank basement watching mindless Putin prop; speeches from the Dear, Great, Savage Leader; & Jew hating, anti-black, anti-Irish, onanistically racist hate videos; why is it always the “Jeeewz!” with you fascists?
you daft tankie; Are the “Jeeewz!” in your cornflakes again, heinrich How many futile chances have you been given? Multiple posts of your hysterically hateful absurdities
You’re a factory of manifest lies, copy/paste bumf & incoherent prop.
All you do is “blah blah,” you racist halfwit. obvious con theories, hateful racism, & Putin prop.
And you have 181 fewer.
September 25th, 2023
181 words of hate.
Looking at what’s left:
In much of this response, seeking further information I have consulted ‘Slouching Towards Sirte’ by Maximilian Forte, an American anthropologist, professor and author. Other sources, ‘The Management Of Savagery’ by Max Blumenthal. And a bit of BBC and Wiki.
All quotes attributed to their source.
The Narcissist:
‘You falsely claimed that the rebel fighters & opposition who faced Gaddafi were not from Libya - you said, “he claims Gaddafi was killed by his own people” - this you falsely termed a “lie.” You imply that the fighters were all from without - that “insurgent Islamists” & Libyans are somehow mutually exclusive. I even identified a city in Libya where the fighters were from, a city targeted by Gaddafi. He was captured by Libyan forces, including Misratan rebel fighters - who confronted him about what he did to Misrata.’
In ‘Slouching Towards Sirte’, Maximilian
Forte wrote that NATO ‘plastered Libya with bombs’. Thousands of civilians were underneath them. Civilians they claimed to be ‘protecting’.
Forte quotes a BBC reporter: ‘I have met many people in Misrata who believe Sirte should be wiped off the map.’
If the reporter was able to interview rebels in Misrata, this would suggest that, unlike Sirte, the town was not ‘wiped off the map.’
Further, ‘One of the rebels told The Telegraph that NATO should bomb the town even if it meant civilian casualties….Even if they blow up Ajdabiya we don’t care.’
Forte goes on to speculate what the Western media would make of a similar statement by Gaddafi, and concludes they’d call it ‘genocide’.
But the rebel comment ‘received..little notice’.
Sirte was utterly destroyed and, again quoting Forte: ‘we actively participated in the slaughter, and without a hint of remorse.’ The bloody massacre of the civilian population of Sirte went unchecked, despite the ‘Responsibility To Protect’ doctrine that was the pretext of the intervention. Concerning the invasion, Forte writes of the ’simplistic formulas..lacking in analytical depth [and] deficient of credibility’ used in justification. ‘That this was was about ‘human rights’ (Forte’s quotes), ‘That Gaddafi was a ‘brutal dictator’,that we needed to ‘protect civilians’ or that ‘the world’ looked to ‘us’ to ‘do something’.(ibid. Author’s quotes)
‘as he tried to escape,’ writes Forte,’Gaddafi’s fleeing convoy was struck by NATO on the pretext that (it) could threaten civilians.’ (The strike was from a drone targeted and activated from the mainland of America.)
After he was caught hiding in a drainage pipe,
Gaddafi was sodomised with a bayonet, shot in the head and his body put on public display.
The quote about Gaddafi’s calling the rebels ‘rats, but look where we found him’ is acutely revealing. Gaddafi was right. Whoever did that to him were rats.
Forte writes that Sirte was ‘reduced to rubble by NATO bombardments and by the blanketing firepower by rebels.’
There have been numerous inquiries since the events of 2011. One, a House of Commons cross-party committee, reported that until the NATO intervention, around a thousand people, including Gaddafi’s soldiers, had been killed. After NATO dropped an estimated 7,700 missiles over 7 months the number escalated into the tens of thousands. The committee declared that the threat of ‘genocide’ in Benghazi was ‘not supported by the available evidence. And that much of the propaganda was promoted by ‘emigres opposed to Gaddafi.’ The British report also stated that NATO’s prime movers in the conflict could not be certain who they were arming. Among those arming the rebels were Qatar and the UAE.
Other sources claim that many were Islamic extremists, including certain Libyans who had participated in the Afghan war, armed by the US to overthrow the Soviet-backed government, and before 2011, had fought with Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. John McCain called them ‘Libyan patriots’ and said they were not Al Qaeda
Gaddafi son Saif warned that ousting his father would lead to a substantial increase in the number of North African migrants leaving via Libya for, among other places, Lampedusa, which has been much in the news of late.
Narcissist: ‘I only correct & slap the hateful, extremist racists’.
So if you’ve been corrected & slapped (b*tch slapped, presumably, like he does all the women falling over themselves for his ‘affection’. He’s such a guy.) then you’re a hateful extremist racist. Be warned.
Finally, there’s plenty more, but the Narcissist prose style is very wearing.
“rebel warlords…only interested in power” –
Narcissist reply: ‘Your fawning servility towards brutal dictators is truly bizarre. Gaddafi seized power & ruthlessly held on to it - for decades - making himself & his family ludicrously wealthy in the process (more of your favoured tyrannical corruption & theft - on the most massive scale). Yet he was not “interested in power?” Your credulity is, to say the least, misplaced. But then you maintain that Putin is not corrupt either.’
Now: I wrote that the rebel warlords currently holding sway in the hellhole that is now Libya, are , indeed,’only interested in power’. The operative word here is ‘only’. Most rulers are interested in power, otherwise they wouldn’t be rulers. But to claim from what I wrote that I was saying Gaddafi was not interested in power, is the comment of somebody who’s playing fast n loose with semantics. Just nitpicking to sound clever, and failing.
The Narcissist, deliberately misconstruing in that deceptive stratagem of his, is also ‘only interested in power’. Otherwise he wouldn’t waste his time on little cavils like that.
Enough.
For now.
Oh go on then, just one more:
‘you copy/paste wholesale from your racist hate sites & prop sites. Where are you sourcing these prize tidbits & juicy morsels? Also, why are you repeatedly using American spellings?’
Didn’t know I was, Mister ‘Tidbits’.
May 20th, 2024
please re-seed, thank you!!
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